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General Electric (GE) Q4 Earnings Call Transcript

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General Electric(NYSE:GE)
Q4  Earnings Call
Jan 26, , a.m. ET


  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:


Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the General Electric fourth-quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. My name is Brandon, and I'll be your conference coordinator today. [Operator instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the program over to your host for today's conference, Steve Winoker, vice president of investor communications. Please proceed.

Steve Winoker

Thanks, Brandon. Good morning, and welcome to GE's fourth-quarter earnings call. I'm joined by our chairman and CEO, Larry Culp; and CFO, Carolina Dybeck Happe. Before we start, I'd like to remind you that the press release and presentation are available on our website.

Note that some of the statements we're making are forward-looking and our base and our best view of the world and our businesses as we see them today. As described in our SEC filings and on our website, those elements can change as the world changes. Please note that we will hold an investor call on March 10th to provide more detail in our outlook. With that, I'll hand the call over to Larry.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Steve, thanks, and good morning, everyone. It's hard to think of a tougher year than However, our team performed in the fourth quarter marked a strong free cash flow finish to the year. Starting with our results snapshot on Slide 2.

Industrial free cash flow came in at $ billion in the quarter, $ billion higher than last year. This was largely driven by better working capital and improved renewables and power orders. For the year, we generated a positive free cash flow of $ million, or $ million excluding biopharma in the first quarter. Despite the weakness in aviation, healthcare drove our performance, delivering $ billion of free cash, and power and renewables continued to improve.

Orders were down 3% organically in the quarter. While down, this was a considerable improvement from the second and third quarters. In three of our four segments, orders were in fact up notably equipment orders at renewables and power were up double-digits. For the year, orders were down 17%, with 95% of this pressure aviation related.

Despite this, our backlog remains at strength at $ billion with approximately 80% geared toward services where we have higher margins. Industrial revenue was down 14% organically and 13% for the year. Services were down 22% this quarter, driven by the aviation aftermarket despite some moderation, outages, and upgrades in power and power upgrades and renewables. While services may fluctuate quarter to quarter, especially as we've seen during the pandemic, they create a multiyear backlog of profitable business and importantly keep us close to our customers, and we expect to grow in '

Industrial margin was % this quarter and % for the year. While this was an organic contraction on both measures, we saw sequential improvement through the year due to our more than $2 billion of cost actions. Adjusted EPS was $ for the quarter and $ for the year which includes an impact for the restructuring recast of $ for the quarter and $ for the year. Carolina will expand on this momentarily.

In all, momentum is growing across our businesses. As progressed, we significantly improved GE's profitability and cash performance despite a still difficult macro environment. We're encouraged by the significant free cash flow growth this quarter. We came into with a clear game plan and key.

We were expecting a strong performance from aviation and healthcare while executing our turnarounds at power and renewables. We all know how the story goes. The COVID pandemic hit and it hit us hard but our battle-tested team embraced the new realities and moved on. This is best evidenced by the meaningful progress on our priorities.

Looking at Slide 3. One, we strengthen our businesses. This started first with what matters most protecting the safety of our employees and taking care of our customers and our communities. At the same time, we remain focused on what we can control.

We continue to build our world-class team at all levels with new leaders joining our existing strong bench of GE talent. And these leaders are playing a critical role in GE's operational and cultural transformation. In support of our transformation and better results, we executed more than $3 billion of cash actions. This enabled strong free cash flow generation in the quarter bringing us again into positive territory for the full year.

Specifically, at gas power, we delivered positive cash flow one year ahead of our commitments due to our cost measures and operational improvements and we saw traction across our other businesses. For example, all three power portfolio businesses generated profit growth this quarter for the first time in two years. Two, we continue to solidify our financial position. Despite the ongoing market uncertainty, our liquidity remains strong bolstered by our free cash flow performance.

We exited the quarter with $37 billion of cash. You'll recall that in early , we completed the sale of our biopharma business for $20 billion. This cash enabled us to accelerate our balance sheet deleveraging efforts and since the beginning of , we've reduced external debt by $30 billion. And three, we're building our foundation for long-term profitable growth.

This starts with GE's purpose: rising to the challenge of building a world that works. We're leading in some of the world's most important markets. The energy transition, precision health, and the future of flight, and we're passionate about delivering for our customers while tackling the world's biggest problems. We're seeing this as we help customers decarbonize through leading technology across wind, gas power generation and modernizing the power grid with digital and automation solutions.

And this really came to life at healthcare this year where we were on the frontlines responding to the exponential increases in demand in certain products due to COVID And we're keeping our sights on the long term. Healthcare launched more than 40 new products including the mural virtual care solution which provides a complete view of patient status across a care area, hospital, or system. And we announced that we acquired prismatic sensors which has photon-counting technology, a huge leap forward in the quality of limit images that can be captured on a CT.

So as we play more offense in , our team is energized about making our purpose a reality every day. Now lean is how we will do this across GE in the real unfinished business. In the last two years, we've laid the groundwork, establishing our archives and promotion office and introducing lean fundamentals across the company. Now, we're picking up the pace, scaling lean companywide with an eye toward operational and financial impact through safety, quality, delivery, cost, and cash improvements.

In digital grid, for example, our team use problem solving and daily management to reduce quality defects by 25%. This helps drive savings that enabled the business to grow operating profit by 60% in As this team shows, you can apply lean in any part of the business not just in manufacturing. One of our key leadership behaviors is delivering the focus which means ruthlessly prioritizing where we can add the greatest value.

Two key opportunities for GE are aftermarket services and digital, often working in tandem to transform what we can do for our customers on a daily basis. For example, our renewables and digital teams are working together to develop AI-enhanced wind turbine inspections to reduce blade failures. In turn, earlier detection will help improve safety as well as reduce repair time and cost. These advances are possible due to our ongoing commitment to investing in innovation.

We also had some major product launches this year with the Haliade-X wind turbine in the GE9X engine receiving certifications. Both machines are leaders in their own rights offering incredible power output and efficiency. So , certainly, a year none of us will ever forget for its challenges but even more so for how the world rose to meet them. At GE, I'm proud of the way we persevered in the face of great uncertainty and we're set up well for the year ahead.

With that, Carolina will provide further details on our quarterly results.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Larry. Broadly speaking, I'm also pleased with how we're progressing on our priorities. We're becoming more operational, we're deepening our focus on cash flow, and we're using lean and automation to improve speed, quality, and scale. And you've started to see evidence of this in our margin and cash flow numbers.

I'll share some examples with you today. Turning to Slide 4. Larry covered our consolidated results, so let me provide some additional color on our earnings performance. First, we made some notable reporting enhancements.

This better aligned with how we operate our businesses and will help us drive improvements. They also further enhanced transparency and disclosure quality. On a particular note, we now include restructuring expense expect for significant and higher cost programs in adjusted EPS and in our segment results. This will drive accountability in managing cost and benefit at the businesses.

The restructuring recast was an impact of $ in the quarter and $ for the year. Second, we're still managing through significant market volatility. Aviation continues to heavily impact our overall performance, pressuring our top line and our industrial profit but we saw progress in our other businesses. This quarter, while overall industrial margin was down basis points, excluding aviation -- excluding aviation, margin expanded to basis points reflecting swift actions and strong executions on our cost programs.

As planned in , we reduced structural headcount by more than 20,, or 11% and that's ex dispositions. Third, looking at continuing to adjusted EPS. Much of this difference came from the steps we've taken to improve our financial position and operation. There were a couple of main drivers.

This includes our Baker Hughes mark and $ million of restructuring expense tied to the significant high-cost program. I'd also point out that under cost, additional biopharma-related tax benefits, and the remaining $ million to close out the SEC matter. In all, as our actions took hold, we saw improving results to close this difficult year. Moving to cash.

We generated $ billion of industrial free cash flow this quarter, well above our expectations coming into the quarter. This is up $ million year over year but it's also ex-biopharma up $ million. All businesses delivered positive cash flow largely driven by better working capital management. Cash flow benefited from positive earnings.

Healthcare earnings were strong again this quarter, and together with power and renewables were enough to offset aviation's decline. You'll see that there are puts and takes between earnings and other CFOA. As seen in prior quarters, noncash items such as the Baker Hughes market to market impacted earnings but not cash, and they were offset in other CFOA. Consistent with how we run the business which strengthens our working capital definition, broadening it to include current contract assets and other current items while our free cash flow definitions remain unchanged.

This quarter, working capital was the biggest driver of our free cash flow, a source of cash at $ billion. This was significantly better sequentially and year over year due to seasonal volume and continued operational and financial process improvement. While we're seeing improvements across the board, inventory and payables were the net contributors to cash flow this quarter. Looking at the dynamics, receivable naturally pressured from the higher seasonal volume in the fourth quarter.

We also reduced short-term factoring by $ billion this quarter bringing the total factoring balance down to $ billion, partially offsetting this with strong collections resulting in a further decline in past dues and DSOs. Renewables was a standout this year, implementing a standard operating rhythm using lean to reduce its DSOs and its past dues by more than 25%. On inventory, we released $ billion across all businesses through higher deliveries, driven by seasonality and more rigorous material management. For example, healthcare's margin is implementing a real pull system in production.

So far, this has improved on-time delivery by roughly 15 points and increased inventory turns by half turn. Payables were also benefited as volume increased this quarter. Progress collections were a net $1 billion inflow. This was driven by cash collected from large orders closed in renewables and strong milestone deliveries, partially offset by aviation and power.

Contract assets, a net $ million of inflow, and this was due to aviation CSA collections including quarterly flight hours, annual minimum contracts requirements, and other items. We think carefully optimizing our investments to drive returns aligned with our long-term objectives. We held capex flat sequentially in the fourth quarter, this represents a reduction of more than 50% year over year and for the year, this is down 31%. But importantly, we continue to invest in high return and strategically important projects.

For the year, industrial free cash flow was $ million. All businesses, except aviation, improved cash flows and ended the year stronger than they began. Total power generated positive free cash flow including gas power as we made faster progress on our fixed cost reductions and working capital improvements despite the negative cash flows of our portfolio. Healthcare delivered an impressive free cash flow of $ billion while overcoming a $1 billion headwind from the forgone cash flows of biopharma, this was driven by higher earnings primarily from the pandemic-related demand, cost actions, and better working capital.

Free cash flow at renewables was negative $ million with a $ million improvement year over year despite the impact of the business' cycle. The focus on inventory management is paying off and we had strong progress from orders and milestone execution. Aviation free cash flow turned positive this quarter and was nearly break-even for the year, enabled was significant cash actions. Stepping back, our trajectory to sustainable cash flow growth rests largely on self-help.

I'm confident we're focused on the right area. Operational cash drivers that improve working capital increasing our frequency of our operating rhythm and more linear cash flow generation throughout the quarters and the year. For example, all leaders have action plans to run their businesses leaner with a lower inventory level. In aggregate, our focus and actions to improve working capital are starting to pay off.

Moving to the segment results, which I'll speak to on an organic business. First on aviation. GE and CFM departures we're down approximately 48% this quarter versus our January '20 baseline. Due to the resurgence of COVID cases and further travel restrictions, the commercial aftermarket, which is critical to our recovery showed some sequential improvement.

Orders were down 40% year on year, but up more than 50% sequentially. Commercial services was down more than 50% year over year, with commercial engines down 21%. It's important to recall that the fourth quarter of '19 included a $ billion order from the aeroderivative joint venture formation. This was just under half of the total orders declined in dollar terms.

Aviation backlog stands at $ billion, down 5% year over year, yet flat sequentially. The largest driver was commercial engines as unit shipments and cancellations outpaced orders. Cancellations were about units, primarily LEAP-1B this quarter. Significant, but for context, our ending LEAP backlog still stands at more than 9, engines.

Revenue decline -- decline continue to moderate, down 34% this quarter, while revenue was up nearly 20% sequentially. Commercial engine revenue was down 47% as we shipped fewer engines year over year. Commercial services revenue was down nearly 50%. This was driven by lower spare part sales and shop visits.

Charges for long-term service agreements were approximately $ million this quarter, roughly a third is COVID-related. While customer demand remained strong in military, revenue was flat, falling short of our expectations. This was due to continued supply chain challenges slowing shipments. Segment margin, %.

Margin expanded sequentially, driven by the cost actions and improved volume in commercial markets despite more than $ million of continued higher cost due to lower production rates. Decremental margins this quarter were 48%, up sequentially. This was due to continued volume pressure and a tough margin comp of 23% from the fourth quarter in ' So for the year, aviation margin of % was supported by significant countermeasures.

We realized savings of more than $1 billion of cost and $2 billion of cash actions. This work continues in ' Moving to healthcare. The team delivered another strong quarter.

The healthcare systems' market remained dynamic with elevated demand in COVIDrelated equipment, offset by softer demand for non-pandemic products. Regionally, public healthcare markets such as Europe and China, have been stronger than the private market, particularly U.S., India, and Latin America. For the second consecutive quarter, global procedure volumes were relatively stable with some regional variability as care providers postpone elective procedures due to COVID spike. With that backdrop, healthcare orders continue to improve, up 1%.

In healthcare systems, orders grew 1%. Europe was up low double-digits and China up low-single-digits. Services saw consistent growth, up low double-digit as we continue to provide critical support to our customers. In PDx, demand continues to recover to pre-pandemic level and orders were down 1%, but up slightly sequentially.

Healthcare revenue was up 6%. Healthcare systems was up 7%. LCS had solid execution, delivering a record number of ventilators. Non-pandemic-related volumes were also positive as we converted imaging backlog and ultrasound orders this quarter.

From a regional perspective, we saw strong growth in Europe and China. This year, China revenue was more than $2 billion and up 11% in the quarter alone. U.S. revenue was more than $ billion, up 2% for the year, including the U.S.

government ventilator orders. PDx revenue slightly down 1%. The segment margin was up basis points this quarter and basis points for the year. While we continue to invest in new products, the team reduced structural costs.

Headcount was down roughly 1, this quarter and the business maintained tighter control over discretionary costs. For the year, revenue was up 4% with healthcare systems up 5% and the margin was 17%. Our team delivered operational improvement and have had room for more with an eye toward continued margin expansion. Turning to power, our team continued to make operational progress, particularly in cash generation.

Starting with the market. Despite global electricity demand and gas-based power generation declining this quarter, GE gas turbine utilization, and therefore, our CSA billings were resilient, increasing mid-single-digits, driven by our technology and commercial positioning in higher growth gas-favored regions. As anticipated, we saw significant orders improvement. Gas power equipment orders more than tripled with HA wins in Asia and securing 45 to 50 heavy-duty gas turbine shipments in

Service orders grew 7% with double-digit growth in transactional and low-single-digit growth in CSA. While upgrade decline moderated from earlier in , down single-digits. For the year, service orders were down 3%. Power portfolio orders were down 27%, largely driven by steam equipment.

As we exit new-build coal, this trend of limited steam equipment activity has continued. And as we execute backlog and rightsize the business, we expect this to flow through the financials. We ended with slightly higher backlog as growth in gas power more than offsets declines in power portfolio. Gas power backlog of $66 billion grew roughly $ million sequentially, driven by strong equipment and transactional services book-to-bill.

Revenue was down slightly this quarter. In gas power, revenue was down 3%, largely driven by services down 10%. We saw lower discretionary spend on upgrades and narrower scope of outages. For the year, we executed about 90% of our pre-COVID outage plan.

Offsetting this was equipment revenue, up double-digits. We shipped 28 gas turbines this quarter, up seven units year over year for a total of 51 heavy-duty shipments in , and we commissioned 4 gigawatts of power to the grid, including six HA units. In power portfolio, revenue was up 5%, primarily driven by steam equipment project execution. Our power portfolio team performed about 95% of their pre-COVID outage plan.

Segment margin of 6% was up 40 basis points. A double-digit reduction in gas power fixed costs was partially offset by negative revenue mix between equipment and services and some one-time noncash charges, including for specific customer credit event. In power portfolio, as Larry mentioned, all three businesses generated profit. Power conversion was a particular standout.

Better execution led to margin expansion of 10 points year over year. For the year, power revenues were down 5%, but the team held margins at %. We offset pressure from lower services volume and one-time noncash charges, such as an underperforming joint venture for global aeroderivative packaging by reducing headcount by roughly 3, and decreasing power fixed costs. Turning to renewable.

Our progress continues. This year, onshore wind delivered record volumes despite the pandemic. Offshore wind received full certification for both its 12 and 13 megawatts Haliade-X. In grid and hydro, our turnaround showed improved results.

Starting with the market. Onshore wind growth was designed by international demand. Offshore wind continued to be supported by solid secular growth trends. And we've built a robust Haliade-X pipeline with total commitments of gigawatts.

Orders were up 32% year over year, representing the first quarter of growth since the third quarter in ' This was driven by onshore wind with large equipment orders in North America and offshore wind with its first Haliade-X order of 95 units from the Dogger Bank Wind Farm in the U.K. This double-digit order growth brings our backlog to a record high of $30 billion, and importantly, at better margins. We remain focused on underwriting discipline and better project selectivity.

Revenue was down 7%, driven by onshore wind, specifically, new units, and repower upgrades were down 27% as our deliveries were more heavily weighted in the prior quarter due to the PTC dynamics. This was partially offset by growth in offshore wind and hybrids. Segment margin was slightly negative this quarter. Though up basis points year over year, it was driven by cost productivity, better pricing in onshore wind North America and improved project execution.

At grid, profit while negative, improved significantly, driven by our restructuring actions and better project execution. For renewables, revenue was up for the year. And while this segment margin improved, it was still negative. Moving to GE Capital on Slide 7.

We ended the year with $ billion of assets excluding liquidity. Continuing operations generated an adjusted net loss of $24 million this quarter. This was down year over year, primarily driven by lower gains at GECAS and EFS and higher taxes. Partially offsetting were lower EFS, impairments, and positive marks on the insurance investment portfolio.

At GECAS, our team continued to work customer-by-customer through restructuring, and in some cases, repossessions. At year end, the outstanding deferred balance was approximately $ million. This was down slightly sequentially, both as a function of limited new deferrals as well as collections. Importantly, we've collected around 84% of what we've invested to date.

And out of the fleet of more than aircraft, we ended the year with 27 aircraft on ground. This quarter, GECAS generated a profit of $ million. That's down $94 million year over year, driven primarily by the disposition of the PK Air in and market conditions. For the year, GECAS generated earnings of $50 million, excluding the second quarter goodwill impairment.

Equipment lease impairments in the year totaled $ million and $45 million in the quarter. Going forward, we'll continue to monitor credit risk as further credit deterioration could result in additional airline failures over and above those that we have considered in our reviews. Turning to insurance. The business generated net income of $ million this quarter.

This was largely driven by increases in the unrealized gains in the investment securities portfolio and in market-to-market adjustments and real-life gains. As it relates to the pandemic and adjusting for what we believe is timing-related, in our LTC block, we continued to see reductions in nuclear and higher policy terminations. In our run-off life business, we saw -- we still saw higher claims due to higher mortality. In our structured settlement block, we also saw higher mortality resulting in lower claims.

Insurance will complete its annual statutory cash flow test in the first quarter of ' As expected, GE provided a capital contribution to GE capital of $2 billion in line with the required annual insurance statutory funding for As we said in the third quarter, we expect an additional contribution from GE to GE capital in '21 to meet its existing insurance statutory funding requirements of approximately $2 billion. In light of the uncertain environment, further contributions depend on GE capital's performance, including GECAS operations and the insurance safety results.

Shifting to corporate, our focus on decentralization continues. We are driving more accountability to the segments and continue to resize the core in favor of the business units. This quarter, adjusted corporate costs were $ million, down 23% year over year. Functional costs and operations improved as we saw further reduced headcount, which was down 13% for the year.

GE digital saw significant traction on profit and cash flow as the business improved operations and optimized its cost structure. Moving to Slide 8. We continue to improve our financial position despite the uncertain external environment. We ended the year with about $37 billion of total cash, more than $23 billion at GE and $13 billion at GE capital.

We also maintained $20 billion of credit lines. As for a series of actions this year, we reduced near-term liquidity needs through by $ billion. We also continued to enhance our cash management operations, targeting more linear cash flow, lower factoring, and less restricted cash. As a result, we reduced intra-quarter borrowings by $ billion in , or approximately 75% less year over year.

Expanding on cash flow linearity. One focus area for our businesses has been improving the end-to-end cycle of order fulfillment, billing, and collections. In our healthcare system equipment business, for example, standard work is helping us level load the number of deliveries from the third month in the quarter to earlier in the quarter, smoothing out deliveries and collections. This is also reducing inventory and improving factory productivity.

These types of operational improvements have reduced our industrial cash needs to below $13 billion on a go-forward basis. And this creates greater capacity to delever the company. However, we will continue to hold elevated cash levels through this period of uncertainty. Turning to debt reduction.

We made strong progress in , reducing external debt by $16 billion. And our industrial net debt ended at $32 billion, down $16 billion in '20 and down $23 billion from ' We also continued to derisk and actively manage our pension. In , we decreased our pension deficit by $ billion, the combination of strong asset returns at % and recent actions, such as the $ billion pension pre-funding, more than offset the impact of low-interest rates.

Based on our current assumptions, we won't need to make contributions through to the GE pension plan. In terms of leverage level, industrial ended with a times net debt to EBITDA ratio due to lower EBITDA, reflecting pandemic-related pressure. We remain committed to achieving our industrial leverage target of times net debt to EBITDA over time. At GE capital, we ended with a debt to equity ratio of

and we expect to remain below our 4 times debt to equity target. In closing, our teams made meaningful progress this year. I am encouraged by the results we're seeing from the many, many changes under way. We'll continue to build on this momentum in

Now Larry, back to you.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Carolina, thank you. Turning to page to We're planning to provide a full outlook for the company, including detailed segment information during our March investor call. But today, we'll share an overview for the total company in

Moving to Slide 9. We're expecting organic growth in the low-single-digit range for industrial revenue. Organic expansion of plus basis points for industrial operating margin. $ to $ for adjusted EPS and a range of $ billion to $ billion for Industrial free cash flow.

Of course, there are a number of key assumptions underpinning our plan for the year. First is the lost cash and earnings from dispositions, largely biopharma, which again generated nearly $ million in cash and $ million in profit in the first quarter of ' And the continued reduction of Baker Hughes dividends, which represented more than $ million of cash flow in Second, on aviation, where the impact of COVID has been most acutely felt and our level of uncertainty is still the greatest.

Starting with the market, our plan assumes to purchase remained close to fourth-quarter levels in the first quarter, and we begin to see the commercial aviation market recover in the second half. That said, we fully acknowledge the pace of the recovery remains dependent on containing the spread of the virus, effective inoculation programs, and government's collaboration to encourage travel. At GE aviation, we continue to expect the engine aftermarket recovery to lag departure trends across regions and fleets, particularly around quarantine requirements. And given that we generate a significant portion of our cash.

in commercial services, the recovery of the aftermarket remains critical. So our full-year plan assumes Aviation revenue as flat to up year-over-year. And as a reminder, since the full effect of the virus was not felt until late in the first quarter of last year, we will be lapping our tough comp. Looking across our other segments.

In power, we anticipate continued progress at gas power with some offset in power portfolio as we exit new-build coal. Overall, we expect equipment revenue will be down, driven by our narrower scope with less turned key volume. We're also planning for growth in our higher-margin services revenue. In renewables, we're focused on improving operational execution and driving structural cost out.

This will help us expand margins and improve cash. In healthcare, we expect continued strength in healthcare systems as our new products and commercial average drive growth and PDx to recover. While we expect cash conversion remains solid, it will be lower than And at capital, we expect earnings to be better.

At each business, we're further accelerating cash performance and cost management with restructuring remaining elevated. So in aggregate, we have a positive trajectory going into despite areas of volatility and the continued challenges in aviation. We're focused on delivering on our commitments. And I'm confident that our continued efforts will build a stronger and more focused GE.

Turning to Slide As we all know, was a year like none other. I'm truly proud of the GE team and their remarkable resilience. I hope you can see that in the face of great uncertainty, we continue to strengthen our businesses and deliver for our customers.

And as we move through the second half, our businesses has had a strong free cash flow finish to what was a challenging year. Momentum is growing across our businesses. We've continued to evolve our culture by embracing lean while preserving the strength that have defined GE throughout its history. And I'm excited about the opportunities that lie ahead.

How we will continue to lead the energy transition, help our customers deliver precision health, and define the future of flight. As our multi-year transformation accelerates, we'll unlock upside potential with better cash generation profit and growth. And ultimately, we expect that our industrial businesses over time should generate high-single-digit free cash flow margins while rising to the challenge of building a world that works. With that, Steve, let's go to questions.

Steve Winoker

Before we open the line, I'd ask everyone in the queue to consider your fellow analysts again and ask one question so we can get to as many people as possible. Brandon, can you please open the line.

Questions & Answers:


Thank you. [Operator instructions] And from J.P. Morgan, we have Steve Tusa. Please go ahead.

Steve Tusa -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Hi, guys. Good morning. Good morning.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Hey, Steve. Good morning.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Steve Tusa -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Congrats on the strong finish on cash. Just curious on this -- on this GE capital changed. When -- when did that start and is there any impact on -- on kind of working capital trends? I'm -- I'm just kind of trying to figure out how, you know, you mentioned that the transactions remain on kind of an arm's length basis. But how -- how does this kind of, you know, change that the -- the dynamic around working capital at all?

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Hey, Steve. Just for clarity, you mean the change in how we account for an equity basis?

Steve Tusa -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst


Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

That we just announced today?

Steve Tusa -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst


Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer


Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

OK, yeah. Well, that -- that is really to sort of simplify the way we show how GE industrial is performing and how GE capital is performing. That's the only -- that's the only change that we do there. I would say though that looking at the reporting changes that we have done in the quarter or at year end, there are a couple of significant ones.

And the most significant is really the restructuring recast in moving responsibility for not only the sort of execution but also the cost as well as the benefits to the businesses. So I would say that -- that's the biggest and most important one. And also when we're talking about the working capital definition and the broadening working capital definition, that is really to more align with how we really run the business internally and operationally to drive improvements in working capital to show that also in the external reporting and the classified balance it really goes -- goes with that.

Steve Tusa -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Got it.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

And the last one was on R&D, right? You saw that as well as really showing that there's a stand-alone line to increase transparency and -- and highlight that.

Steve Tusa -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Good. Just a follow up, what -- will you be growing our assets at GE capital on a core basis outside of insurance in ?

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

No. We're -- we're planning to keep that flat.


From Wolfe Research, we have a Nigel Coe. Please go ahead.

Nigel Coe -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. Just want to dig into your account outlook for You know, at the midpoint through not being thought of you'd be converting over a % on a -- on your adjusted earnings outlook.

So, just wondering, you know, just in terms of broad strokes what you're seeing in terms of working capital benefit, you know, progress collections? Any detail that would be helpful. Thanks.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

So, why don't I see your point there? Why don't I -- I sort of explain how we could walk to the midpoint of the -- the guide. So, we're guiding for $ billion to $ billion of free cash flow in '21 with the midpoint thereof of -- of the $ billion, right? So, you would have to start by rebaselining the numbers from to take out the biopharma -- disposition biopharma and the healthcare COVID demand. And that really gets you to roughly zero as a starting point. And then I would say you have cash earnings, it's about a third that gets you to the midpoint of our range with all the businesses planning for structural cost out.

And here we have both the normal course of strengthening the business that the business are on but also the carryover from the COVID actions. And on top of that, also, the low-single-digit organic growth that we're talking to, right? Primarily in healthcare, renewable, and aviation. The remaining two-thirds are driven by networking capital improvement. It's including the factoring tailwind that we talked about.

And it's partially offset by other items such as the nonreport of military in aviation that we've pulled out as well as higher AD&A payments from higher aircraft deliveries really pushed out.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

And Nigel, I would just add that, you know, I think what you see coursing through both the cash earnings and frankly the working capital improvement are both the improvements that we're trying to drive commercially with respect to -- to just better upfront opportunity identification, better underwriting, pricing terms, and the like all the way through that -- that upfront cycle, but also operationally, right? Be -- be it in terms of cost, be equality in delivery that's -- that's helping us both in the income statement but also, obviously, on the balance sheet. And I think when you look at the fourth-quarter numbers, you -- you see some encouraging evidence that while it's still early innings for us with respect to the lean transformation, we're -- we're seeing some nice results in that will just feed on itself, that will build momentum, and that is something that we're looking forward to contributing in that region of '21 numbers.


From Vertical Research, we have Jeff Sprague. Please go ahead.

Jeff Sprague -- Vertical Research -- Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Just kind of a two-part question if I could. Just share if you could a little bit of the restructuring variance embedded in what you just told us on cash flow and then also currently and just picking up from what you said, if one -third of the earnings -- one-third of the cash flow is from earnings next year that would kind of imply your underlying conversion is 65%, 70% or so.

Is that what your underlying free cash flow conversion should be once we kind of normalize out of this thing?

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

OK. So, we start with the first question then on -- on restructuring. So, we have the -- the real cost, right? That we now include risk -- basically, with moving the responsibility out into the segments and we also including it in -- in the EPS, and therefore, in the recast. So if you look at the quarter, for example, you have a two sense of -- of the effect of that on our numbers.

So, from -- you go from 8 to 10 and 5 for the full year. And if we look at the restructuring, we -- basically, we delivered on the $2 billion of the cost that we committed to. But also the $3 billion, excuse me, of cash as -- as we promised. And you do have a carryover effect of that going into

It's about $ billion that will then flow into the numbers and improve the earnings next -- next year.


From UBS, we have Markus Mittermaier. Please go ahead.

Markus Mittermaier -- UBS -- Analyst

Yes, hi. Good morning, everybody. If I could maybe double-check, specifically, on the power free cash flow guidance. So, it seems that you are clearly about a year ahead of -- of -- of targets here on fixed cost, but on the cash trajectory you're guiding flat next year.

Can -- can you maybe just double-click here, particularly on 12% down on the -- on the gas power services side, how much, you know, sorry, 12% down on the -- on the fixed-cost side on the gas power side, you're down on the -- on -- on services, but you know, should we assume that there's no catch up on that side next year? And specifically on steam, and the exit of new-build coal, is there something that -- in that fixed-cost base you can address going forward? And how should we then think about that maybe over the medium term, one is flat, how -- how do you think about it over the medium term?

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Markus, let me -- let me -- let me take a swing at that. I -- I -- I think you -- you have the basic architecture in hand. The segment will be flat, but it really masks 2 underlying dynamics, right? You're -- you're spot on with respect to the improvement at gas power, I don't think we could be more pleased with the progress the team is making there. Clearly, a competitive market, no question.

But in terms of controlling what we can control, both again, the better underwriting upfront with respect to equipment, the continued market acceptance of the HA, all of that, I think, is in our favor. Services has been a challenge. We've talked about that, I think, through the course of -- of And a little bit of -- a little bit of light there relative to the order book in the -- in the fourth quarter.

But I think we really know the onus is on us to continue to drive better performance in all aspects of the service portfolio there, be it CSA's transaction and upgrades. Upgrades was particularly pressured for us in ' We know CSAs is a function of utilization a little bit -- a little better. So, I -- I think when you put all of that commercial and operational activity on top of the -- the restructuring, where we've taken $1 billion of cost out at -- at gas power, you get the -- the early arrival of that positive free cash performance in '20 as opposed to '

And we really move from here with a team that I think has -- has proven that we can control -- control -- controllable and deliver better results with -- with this book of business. I think when you talk about power portfolio, you put your finger on steam, we're going to be restructuring as we exit coal, new-build coal. That is a significant undertaking. It is -- it is early in that effort, and that will be a cash pull on us in '21 and probably to a lesser degree, in -- in '22 as we execute on that.

So, when you put it all together, as you saw on the slide in the appendix, it will be roughly flat in ' We'll be looking to drive gas as best we can, but we need to see the new coal exit through, and we'll do that as thoroughly and as thoughtfully as we can.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. And just -- just a comment on -- on gas power, specifically, because we've talked a lot about the restructuring with the COVID-related restructuring, but it's really an achievement from the gas power team, with Scott and team. So, achieving positive cash flow in , a year ahead of plan, really basing on what Larry talked about, almost $1 billion of fixed cost out in the last 2 years. And then also basically, I would say, rebalancing our relationship with our partners and -- and suppliers and significantly, structurally increasing DPO as well as significant strengthening the processes that we still on DSOs and how we both bill, collect, including over dues, that's really gotten us to -- to a positive cash flow already in

So strong achievement there.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

And just to come back, Jeff, to your second part of your question about the question of whether that number that you calculated for this year is an ongoing number or not. Carolina, why don't you take a minute to come back on that in terms of free cash flow conversion longer term?

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. When we look at free -- free cash flow conversion longer term, we still -- we need to acknowledge that if we look at the earnings guidance also for -- for next year, we still have elevated levels of -- of restructuring, and we have elevated levels of pension and legal and so on. So, there is still significant room to improve our earnings and then also the structural process improvements that we are driving through the business on the working capital. So, we'll see a healthy cash conversion.

But will take a little bit longer than -- than next year.


And from Bank of America, we have Andrew Obin. Please go ahead.

Andrew Obin -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Yes, good morning.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, Andrew.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, Andrew.

Andrew Obin -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Hi. On aviation, one of the questions we're getting is that I think plane retirements this year have been, you know, below average because I think airlines did not really go bankrupt. But how do you see -- again, one of the questions we get is sort of plane retirements and usable service materials availability into '21, how do you account for this in your forecast for -- your baseline forecast aviation in '21? Thank you.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Andrew, you're -- you're exactly right. I mean, the way we look at retirements in -- in '20 just interestingly compared to '19, we actually saw fewer aircraft retire last year than we did the -- the year before. But I think we're going to see that uptick in -- in '21 in all likelihood here in the back half as -- as volumes return and the -- the deliveries at both of the major airframers pickup. So, we're--we're assuming that we will see that -- that retirement transition, and at the same time, while there's been a little bit of a bid-ask spread with respect to departing out some of those planes, we're anticipating that we'll see a little bit more of that USM effect as we get into the second half at a time when we should see a return to volume activity.

I think people need to appreciate that, you know, that USM cuts both ways for us. We're -- we've been a major user of USM given the nature of our -- our CSA obligations over time. So it will take a little while, I think, for that market to begin to really kick in. There is a lag, of course, from the time a plane is retired to the time that we would see it in the U.S.

end market. But I think as we look out over the next several years, again, not trying today to pin a particular time in which we see a return to normal volume activities. From our perspective, we anticipate deliveries to outpace retirements, and that will be a net effect positive for us at aviation. You know, the other dynamic worth noting there, of course, is when we look at the dynamics for our fleet today, when we highlight the fact we've got a very young fleet, we're really -- what we really mean by that is we've got a little over half of the CFM56, 5B, and 7B fleet, they haven't seen their first shop visit, right? So they're still early in their -- their life cycle, 3 quarters of that same fleet have yet to see their second shop visit.

So we'll typically see three during the course of a normal useful life. Our major economics happen in and around the first and second. So as these -- these planes come back online, that green time is used, demand puts additional pressures on the fleets that -- those are the catalysts that we're really watching for relative to the beginning of the recovery and the return to, let's just say, '19 levels in our commercial aftermarket business there in aviation.


From Melius, we have Scott Davis. Please go ahead.

Scott Davis -- Melius Research -- Analyst

Hi. Good morning, Larry and Carolina.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, Scott.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

I was hoping a little bit of a nitpicky question, but what's left in corporate that you guys plan on parsing out to the -- to the -- to the businesses? If you can be somewhat specific. I mean, is there still R&D that's done at the -- at the central level? Or is everything being kind of built out already? I'll just leave it there.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Well, you know, there -- there are a couple of things in place, Scott, and I'd rather talk about that internally before we talk about it externally. But in effect, what -- what -- what you've seen in the last couple of years, really is not only the reduction of the core through absolute reductions but also the movement of a number of the traditional corporate functions that had been at the center in some form out into the businesses. There is still a fair bit of activity.

You're -- you're -- you're referencing there, specifically, the global research center where we have a -- a -- a shared facility. That's really not part in a major way of that -- that corporate net number that you see there, right? The businesses are -- are paying their way by and large in that regard. Also, keep in mind, we've got a number of P&Ls in what we call corporate, principally the digital business, our -- our $1 billion software business. Some of those businesses are more independent than of the -- of the portfolio.

Others are operationally linked. So, we'll continue to work to improve those businesses. And if there are situations where they can work more closely or better with the businesses under a -- a different roof, we'll do that. But I think we'll continue to look for opportunities, but they will be on balance, more modest in scale and scope than what you've seen in the last couple of years.


From RBC Capital Markets, we have Deane Dray. Please go ahead.

Deane Dray -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, Dean.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, Dean.

Deane Dray -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Hey, couple of questions on aviation. It was announced last week, one of the major airlines said they were restarting deferred engine overhauls. And just would like to hear how you expect to flex aviation capacity back up to meet this normalized demand? And then any color on the supply chain challenges you mentioned in aviation? Thanks.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Well, Deane, it's probably, probably most helpful to just frame kind of what we did and where we are, right? We didn't -- we didn't bring that -- that activity level down to zero. We try to resize it in a way that em -- em -- embrace this -- this harsh, unfortunate near-term reality, but gave us a little bit of room just because -- back to Andrew's question, a number of dynamics that are -- are -- are hard to know in the short-term with absolute certainty, be it the retirement dynamic, how fleets are going to manage green time just even in the short-term, how folks are going to flex around the -- the COVID effects as we saw in July and August and then in the other direction here in -- in the first quarter. Sos as an operational matter, I think what -- what John, Russell and the team are prepared for is a number of scenarios where when we see that recovery, we'll leverage some of the -- if you will, the excess cost that is still there.

Because again, we didn't take it to the bone, but also, we have -- we've laid in place plans that will give us an opportunity to ramp back effectively from a safety, from a quality, from an on-time delivery perspective, but also to have the right cost structure along the way. But we will be dealing with limits, right? In terms of our shop visit capacity in a particular window. And then that's part of the conversation we're already having with customers as they begin to think about the second half of ' They want to make sure that they have their fleet in tiptop ready to go condition.

So, a lot -- a lot that we're working through there clearly, our supply chain has been through a roller coaster right there along with us. I mean it was a year ago, I mean, literally, right now, when we're talking about not only continued volume ramps but a new introduction, clearly at -- at Boeing, with the MAX. And then literally weeks later, we're talking about slamming on the brakes. Part of what you saw in the fourth quarter is a little bit better inventory performance because the lead times and the cycle times in aviation tend to be longer than they are in some of the other businesses.

But we are working as closely as we can with the supply base to help them do what we're doing, and that is worked through the near-term here, where we have these volume pressures, but also be ready for, again, a number of scenarios by which we see a return toward more normal volumes.


From Morgan Stanley, we have Josh Pokrzywinski. Please go ahead.

Josh Pokrzywinski -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Hi. Good morning, Larry. Good morning. Carolina.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Hey, Josh.

Josh Pokrzywinski -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Just -- on aviation, maybe a two-part question. But Larry, you mentioned the -- an expecting a lag in terms of the -- the recovery in your shop visits versus what the market traffic is, it doesn't look like it's happening today, but I get that's the phenomenon that develops over time. Just given so much of the free cash flow performance at the corporate level is working capital and not earnings. I mean, how much of the range is really dependent on aviation as a market because it doesn't seem like there's a ton of volatility or expectation in the forecast that in aviation core performance is really driving that.

And maybe that's a lag or something else, but am I interpreting that right?

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Josh, I -- I would say that if we -- Carolina walked you through kind of the walk to the midpoint as if GE was--was a business as a whole. You know, the slide in the back of the -- the earnings presentation, where we look at cash flow by business, I think it's really meant to capture the fact that the bulk of the range is going to be made up by what happens at aviation, and that will largely be a function of what -- what happens in the market, particularly the aftermarket. You know, there's a bit of renewables in the range there as well. But I think what we've seen through the course of is that, fortunately, when all was said and done, our -- our power businesses were able to work their way through the pressure and the uncertainty.

We had a number of orders at renewables that came in at the end of the year, and we didn't know they were going to be there until they were there, and -- and fortunately, they were. But clearly, this will be a year of climate broadly, and that will be a good thing for our renewables business. And I think healthcare, while we won't convert at the exceptionally high levels the team did and credit to them in the back half of last year, Healthcare, I think we've got a good line of sight on. So, when you look at that range, I think the bulk of it, again, is really a function of Aviation.

I like the way we're executing, we can always do better. But that said, it will really be a -- a function of what happens in the end of the market. And I think what we try to do here is provide a framework that isn't assuming some sort of out of the consensus early spike recovery in aviation, that would be in a word foolish.


From Goldman Sachs, we have Joe Ritchie. Please go ahead.

Joe Ritchie -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everybody.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, Joe.

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Joe Ritchie -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

So I'm going to apologize upfront for the two-part question, but I wanted to first ask a question to Carolina. To maybe just bridge us a little bit given the reporting changes, bridge the EPS guide for versus, you know, what you reported in ? And then my second question for Larry. Just from a portfolio perspective, you know, arguably, there's never been a better time to divest assets that you don't want longer term. How are you thinking about that for ?

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

So let me start with the -- the EPS question, and then really focusing in on the restructuring, right? So I commented in the beginning that we have restructuring in the EPS now and that the effect of that for the full year is around $ We do expect to have, I would say, roughly the same level of restructuring in , right? So -- so you don't have an effect from -- from elevated or changed restructuring levels when you compare '20 to '21, when we do the work on -- on the EPS.

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

I would say with respect to portfolio evolution and -- and capital allocation, Joe, I take your point relative to the market dynamics, it's -- they are remarkable. But that said, I don't think any of our businesses are close to optimizing their underlying performance, and again, clearly pressure and some uncertainty here in the very short-term, particularly around aviation. But I think what we want to do in '21 is build on the momentum that we think we clearly demonstrated last year, continue to pursue our strategic intent across the 3 major areas that we've talked about. And over time, we're going to be open to ways to deliver value, maximize value at -- at GE.

But we still have a lot to do, still a lot in front of us. And I think that's the way at the end of the day that we will do right by shareholders, customers, and other stakeholders.


From Barclays, we have Julian Mitchell. Please go ahead.

Julian Mitchell -- Barclays -- Analyst

Hi. Good morning Maybe just the first question around -- or my only question really around the outlook for power portfolio, Larry. It seems like looking at the slides, that's one of the few areas where the -- the cash performance remains very, very difficult in Maybe just help us understand, you know, the moving pieces within that.

And you assume that by the time you get to the end of this year, you've really sort of cleaned the deck and -- and those businesses have a shorter positive cash flow in '

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I would say that -- I think we talked a little earlier about the makeup, encouraged by what we saw in at power conversion. It's lo -- lo -- losing less money is different than making good returns, but you've got to work your way through that. And the power -- the power conversion business is doing that.

Our nuclear business is smaller, sub-billion size, but -- but fundamentally stable. The action, to your question, Julian, really centers on -- on the steam business. And again, exiting the new-build coal business, which has largely a European base is going to be a multi-year effort. We're in the very early stages of that.

So that's really the primary cash pull on power portfolio, and I would say, in -- in the segment in ' And given the way that plan will inevitably play out, we'll be talking about this at least in the first part of -- of '22 as well. But I think we've got our arms around that. Again, it will -- all of that will mask a lot of the momentum that -- that Scott and the team have built.

But we'll -- we'll keep you posted. It is what it is. But when we get to the other side, I think that segment is going to be a much better contributor for us.


And that's all the time we have. At this point, we will now turn it back to Steve Winoker for closing remarks.

Steve Winoker

Thanks, everybody. I'm going to actually -- I'd like to come back to a question that was raised earlier on the call about our reporting GE capital and equity method investment within the GE industrial column of our financial statements. And I'd like to be clear, I think we'd all like to be clear that it has no impact whatsoever on working capital or any individual transactions. It was done simply to simplify reporting and make that column more reflective of GE industrial earnings as investors have been requesting.

So, I want there to be no -- no ambiguity on that front whatsoever. Thanks, everybody, for participating. We look forward to your follow-up calls and wishing you a good start to


[Operator signoff]

Duration: 68 minutes

Call participants:

Steve Winoker

Larry Culp -- Chief Executive Officer

Carolina Dybeck Happe -- Chief Financial Officer

Steve Tusa -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Nigel Coe -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Jeff Sprague -- Vertical Research -- Analyst

Markus Mittermaier -- UBS -- Analyst

Andrew Obin -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Scott Davis -- Melius Research -- Analyst

Deane Dray -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Josh Pokrzywinski -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Joe Ritchie -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Julian Mitchell -- Barclays -- Analyst

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General Electric shares pop on better-than-expected industrial cash flow, rosy outlook

Shares of General Electric finished the day up almost 2% Tuesday after the company reported better-than-expected industrial free cash flow for the fourth quarter and a rosy outlook for this year.

The stock briefly jumped by more than 10% just before the markets opened Tuesday, but shed most of those gains throughout the day.

The company closed the fourth quarter with $ billion in industrial free cash flow, a surprise after CEO Larry Culp projected at least $ billion for the last three months of the year. The strong quarter pushed the company's industrial free cash flow into positive territory for the year.

GE also projected it would generate $ billion to $ billion in industrial free cash flow for

The company also reported a revenue for the fourth quarter ended Dec. 31 that slightly beat analyst expectations while its profits fell short of estimates as the industrial giant continues to weather the coronavirus pandemic.

Here's how GE performed compared with what Wall Street expected, based on average analysts' estimates compiled by Refinitiv:

  • Adjusted EPS: 8 cents versus 9 cents expected.
  • Revenue: $ billion vs $ billion

The company's better-than-anticipated revenue for the quarter was down 16% from a year earlier. On an unadjusted basis, the company reported diluted net earnings per share of 27 cents.

"As progressed, we significantly improved GE's profitability and cash performance despite a still-difficult macro environment," Culp said in a statement. "The fourth quarter marked a strong free cash flow finish to a challenging year, reflecting the results of better operations as well as strong and improving orders in Power and Renewable Energy."

The year-old industrial conglomerate makes jet engines, gas turbines and more and provides some financial services. It no longer manufactures the appliances and lightbulbs it made its household name on in the 20th century, as the company slims down and focuses on turning profits.

Culp said on a conference call with analysts the Covid pandemic "hit us hard," but the company managed to strengthen its financial position through the year. He added that the company plans to "play more offense in "

JPMorgan analyst, Steve Tusa, who called GE's fall years ago, said in a note to clients Tuesday that the company's fundamentals were largely in line with expectations for the quarter, though free cash flow was surprisingly high.

"Bottom line, FCF carries the day on earnings as usual, but the underlying performance here is not too far outside the realm of what we had been expecting," he said.

Gordon Haskett analyst John Inch, who has a hold rating on GE and price target of $7, was unimpressed by the beat on cash flow. He told clients that "strong free cash has been a hallmark of the recession for almost all industrial companies that have released working capital due to weak sales."

The company's fourth-quarter performance was driven largely by a rise in orders in its power and renewable energy businesses, which offset declines in aviation and health care. GE CFO Carolina Dybeck Happe told analysts that all segments except for aviation improved cash flow and "ended the year stronger than they began."

GE's power business reported a 26% year-over-year rise in orders to $ billion for the quarter, driven largely by strong sales of gas power equipment. The company was able to lower fixed costs in its gas power business by 12%, allowing it to deliver positive cash flow for , a year ahead of schedule.

The renewable energy segment reported $ billion in orders, up 34% from a year earlier. Revenue in the segment fell about 6% from a year earlier to $ billion.

Orders in the beleaguered aviation unit, once the company's cash cow, fell 41% from a year earlier as the pandemic wrecked air travel in GE noted in its outlook that it "assumes Aviation revenue being flat to up year-over-year, which is dependent on the Commercial Aviation market recovery accelerating in the second half of as well as the timing of aircraft deliveries."

The health-care segment reported $ billion in orders, down by about 15% year over year. But GE attributed the decline mostly to the sale of its biopharma business in March.

"Over the past year our team proved resilient, and momentum is growing across our businesses," Culp said. "We are in leading positions to capture opportunities in the energy transition, precision health, and the future of flight."

GE's financial services arm, GE Capital, reported a net loss of almost $ million, driven largely by the company's $ million settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Without admitting or denying wrongdoing, the company agreed to pay the fine for allegedly misleading investors by failing to disclose accounting changes in its power and insurance divisions that made its earnings look better.

Culp said on Tuesday's call that the range of its performance will be largely determined by its performance in aviation.

GE was doubly exposed to the pandemic's impact on air travel through aviation, a longtime jewel, that makes and services aircraft engines, and its aircraft leasing unit. The company is betting on an increase in deliveries in as Boeing Max deliveries resume. GE and French company Safran make the planes' engines through their CFM joint venture. Federal regulators late last year cleared the jets to fly again after Boeing made a series of safety-related changes following two fatal crashes and began delivering the planes last year. 

But efforts to predict the recovery of air travel have proven largely inaccurate. Airline executives in recent weeks have warned they face a difficult start to Bookings dropped from the end-year holiday peak along with a spike in Covid infections and more contagious strains of the virus that have prompted new travel restrictions spanning the U.K. to the U.S. to South Africa.

Culp warned on Tuesday that the whiplash of volatile demand for GE's jet engines and maintenance services has strained its supply chain.

"Our supply chain has been through a roller coaster," he said. "We are working as closely as we can with the supply base to help them do what we're doing, and that is work through the near term when we have these volume pressures, but also be ready for a number of scenarios by which we see a return toward more normal volumes."

The stock has been on a tear in recent months, sparked by a surprise third-quarter profit reported in October that sent the stock surging by more than 70% over the fourth quarter. Positive vaccine news, which bodes well for aviation, has sustained the rise.

And some investors are bullish on the company's turnaround under Culp, especially as he forecasts positive cash flow for GE has continued to pay down its debt during the pandemic and cut costs through, for example, layoffs in its aviation business.

CFO Dybeck Happe said the company reduced headcount by 11% in and noted that the company continues to shore up its finances by selling off its stake in Baker Hughes. The company reduced debt by $16 billion in and ended the year with $37 billion in liquidity.

— CNBC's Leslie Josephs contributed to this report.


General Electric Company GE is scheduled to report fourth-quarter results on Jan 26, before market open.

The conglomerate delivered better-than-expected earnings in two of the last four quarters and lagged estimates in the remaining two. Average earnings surprise is %. In the last reported quarter, the company reported earnings of 6 cents per share, whereas the Zacks Consensus Estimate was pegged at a loss of 6 cents.

In the past three months, shares of the company have gained % compared with the industry’s growth of %.


Let us delve deeper.

Key Factors and Estimates for Q4

Impacts of effective cost actions, a surge in the digital business and actions to lower debts are expected to get reflected in General Electric’s fourth-quarter results. Also, the quarter’s performance is anticipated to have been affected by the pandemic. It is worth noting here that financial projections for the quarter have not been provided by the company.

The Zack Consensus Estimate for General Electric’s earnings for the fourth quarter is pegged at 8 cents, suggesting a decline of % from the year-ago reported number and growth of % from the sequential reported figure. The consensus estimate for revenues of $21, million suggests an % decline from the year-ago quarter’s reported figure and a % increase sequentially.

The company’s expectations from the segments are provided below.

For the Healthcare segment, General Electric expects weakness in healthcare systems, with orders declining in mid-single digits in the fourth quarter. Also, business is expected to have been weak in India, the United States and Latin America.

The Zacks Consensus Estimate for Healthcare revenues stands at $4, million, implying a decline of % from the prior-year reported figure and % growth sequentially.

For the Power segment, General Electric expects weakness in service orders to hamper results. The Zacks Consensus Estimate for the segment’s revenues is pegged at $4, million, suggesting a decline of % from the year-ago reported figure and % growth sequentially.

For the Aviation segment, lower installation of commercial engines and weakness in the commercial aftermarket business are anticipated to have influenced fourth-quarter performance. The Zacks Consensus Estimate for the segment’s revenues is pegged at $5, million, indicating a % drop from the year-ago reported figure and % growth sequentially.

Apart from the Power, Aviation and Healthcare segments, the revenue estimate for the Renewable Energy segment stands at $3, million in the fourth quarter, suggesting an % drop from the year-ago quarter’s reported number and a decline of % from the previous quarter’s reported figure.

Notably, the Zacks Consensus Estimate for the Industrial segment’s (comprising Power, Aviation, Renewable Energy and Healthcare) revenues for the to-be-reported quarter is pegged at $18, million, suggesting a % decline from the year-ago quarter’s reported number and a % increase from the third quarter’s reported figure. Profit for the Industrial segment is likely to be $1, million for the fourth quarter of Meanwhile, a profit of $3, million was delivered in the year-ago quarter, while a loss of $1, million was recorded in the previous quarter.

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Earnings ESP: General Electric has an Earnings ESP of %. Both the Most Accurate Estimate and the Zacks Consensus Estimate are pegged at 8 cents per share.

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Zacks Rank: General Electric currently sports a Zacks Rank #1.

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Q4 earnings 2020 ge

GE Earnings: What Happened

Key Takeaways

  • Adjusted EPS was $ vs. the $ analysts expected.
  • Revenue met analyst expectations.
  • Renewable energy revenue was lower than the level analysts estimated.
  • GE secured the first order of its Haliade-X offshore wind turbine.

What Happened

GE reported adjusted EPS for Q4 FY that missed analyst expectations and were down compared to the year-ago quarter. Revenue was in line with analyst forecasts but was also down compared to the same quarter a year ago. The company's revenue generated by its renewable energy segment came in below estimates.

(Below is Investopedia's original earnings preview, published January 21, )

What to Look For

General Electric Co. (GE) has been hobbled by a string of steep quarterly earnings declines due to the fallout of the COVID pandemic. The virus hit as GE already was in the middle of a major turnaround effort after years of crisis, selling several core businesses and betting much of its future on the aviation industry. But air travel has been decimated by the pandemic. And GE's aviation unit, usually its most profitable business, has been hammered.

Investors will be focused on whether GE's financial results show some improvement when the company reports earnings on January 26, for Q4 FY  The news may not be good. Analysts expect continuing sharp declines in adjusted earnings per share (EPS), though these declines may be less severe than in recent quarters.

Investors also will focus on revenue at GE's renewable energy unit, a key business that has exhibited strong growth in recent years. It's also poised to benefit as the Biden administration implements a series of major initiatives to address climate change. In the short term, analysts estimate that GE's renewable energy revenue will stall in Q4 FY , posting virtually no growth.

Shares of GE have lagged the broader market over the past year. Prior to the pandemic-induced market crash in early , GE had been outperforming. The stock initially rebounded with the market in late March, but then it retreated, reaching a low for the year in mid-May. It was not until around the end of September that the stock began to stage a sustained comeback and has significantly narrowed the performance gap. Shares of GE have provided a total return of % over the past 12 months, well below the S&P 's total return of %.

The company's stock continued to trend higher following its Q3 FY earnings report. While adjusted EPS plunged % compared to the year-ago quarter, the positive earnings were an improvement from the loss posted in the previous quarter. Revenue fell %, marking the ninth consecutive quarter of YOY declines. GE said that the pandemic inflicted the most damage on its Aviation segment and its aircraft leasing business within its Capital segment.

GE's Q2 FY results were a low point, which weighed on its stock. The company posted an adjusted loss per share of $, its first loss in at least 15 quarters. Revenue fell %, the largest decline in at least 14 quarters. The aviation unit, which produces jet engines for Boeing Co. (BA) and Airbus SE (EADSY), also posted a loss. The unit had to cut jobs amid plunging orders.

Analysts are forecasting more declines in Q4 FY Adjusted EPS is expected to sink % YOY, a significant fall but not as severe as the previous quarter. Revenue is expected to fall %, which would make it the tenth consecutive quarter of YOY declines. For full-year FY , adjusted EPS is expected to plummet %, its biggest annual decline in at least five years. Annual revenue is expected to shrink %.

GE Key Metrics
Estimate for Q4 FY Q4 FY Q4 FY
Adjusted Earnings Per Share ($) 
Revenue ($B)  
Renewable Energy Revenue ($B) 

Source: Visible Alpha

As mentioned above, investors also will focus on revenue generated by GE's renewable energy business, which is comprised of wind, hydro, solar, and other renewable energy solutions. GE has increased its focus on its renewable energy business in recent years as it has shed legacy units including its lightbulb business, which was created by GE's legendary founder and inventor Thomas Edison more than years ago. The company is undertaking some ambitious projects to become a leader in renewable energy. Its prototype for a new offshore wind turbine, called the Haliade-X, is the largest in the world.

GE's renewable energy business has grown considerably in recent years, with annual revenue growing from about $ billion in FY to $ billion in FY However, revenue growth has slowed significantly in recent quarters amid the pandemic. Renewable energy revenue rose % in Q3 FY after declining % in Q2 FY Analysts expect it to rise just % in Q4 FY and only % for all of FY  It would be the slowest pace since FY Whether GE's renewable energy business rebounds may depend heavily on two factors: how fast the economy recovers and whether President Biden's climate change initiatives accelerate growth in demand for renewable energy.

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